What advantage does the what3words coordinate system have over other, traditional systems?

Another use of What3words are outdoor scavenger hunts or geocaching riddles.

It is much easier to make riddles that have certain words as a solution rather than numbers. You can use it for a children/teenager birthday partys, where they need to solve riddles and the 3 words are pointing to the place where the next riddle is hidden.

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izlin‭

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It's a stupid system, even without looking at it. I don't see it as having any advantages.

I don't take my phone with me in the back country. There's no reception. How do I find out the code I'm in.

Like the phone system, it tries to avoid having neighbouring zones having similar coordinates (area code/words)

The conventional coordinate systems at least are tolerant of certain errors. Degrees to 4 or 5 decimal places locate you close enough to hit with a pine cone, and if you are going on a conventional outing, your base people know where you are to some fairly close degree. The whole idea of UTM is that 6 digits gets you to within a football field -- if the person at the other end knows where you are to within 100 km first.

How many of the rescue agencies use it now? So you have a delay while they turn Electric.Ambling.Hippos into a lat/long set of coordinates on some web page. This can be a serious delay, as the helicopter base station doesn't have cell reception either. And just hope that someone writing this down didn't put down Erection.Rambling.zippos which is over in East Horsebiscuit, South Dakota.

I used UTM grid once to report an accident. My GPS was set to that to work with the topo maps I was carrying. Turns out the chopper pilot only could knew lat/long. That's what his device read. Cost me an extra 20 minutes wait, EVEN THOUGH HE HAD THE EXACT SAME PAPER MAP I DID. Didn't cause extra grief. Boy had a torn knee ligament.

I do have an InReach. Push the "HELP" button, and my coordinates are on their way to my designated contact. If you have a SPOT it works the same way. If you have a PLB, turn it on.

When I'm the back country, I set up a list of checkpoints. I leave a copy of my maps with the checkpoints. Daily I send back both the lat/long but also my text location relative to the nearest check point. (2 Km East checkpoint 6A) to give some degree of error checking if someone doesn't transcribe the coordinates correctly.

As a nav aid in what passes for civilization, I can use my phone to send a pin. If I phone 911, my location goes with that call.

As a game aid, make up your own.

I ran a ROGAINE style program for 6 years. I had 1300 controls scattered out over 200 km2 of territory, each with an alpha numberic ID and a code word. Clues had the ID, the ID showed you found the right one. Returning the code word showed you'd actually been there.

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Sherwood Botsford‭

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This is used a lot by emergency services, in fact I've recently seen emergency services advice recommending people install it on their phones.

If you are outside, in the wind and the rain, and someone's had an accident and you're by the side of a road or half way up a mountain or anywhere else where you can be unsure of your location or how to share it then what3words gives you a clear and accurate way to share your location.

It's much simpler for someone not used to co-ordinates to read off three words than it is to find and then read out their latitude and longitude. It also doesn't rely on having a data service once the app is installed, so you can write down the 3 words, move to a place where you have signal then request help directly to where it is needed.

It's also much more reliable. A long string of numbers is easy to get one wrong, or mishear one, or have to repeat several times. 3 words are 3 words.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-49319760

South Yorkshire Police used it to find a 65-year-old man who became trapped after falling down a railway embankment in Sheffield.

North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service found a woman who had crashed her car but was unsure where she was.

And Humberside Police were able to quickly resolve a hostage situation after the victim was able to tell officers exactly where she was being held.

"That was a time critical situation and being able to use a three word address meant officers could get there much quicker, rescue the hostage and arrest a man," Mr Sheldrick said.

"That made us understand how the work we are doing is so important."

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Tim B‭

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You use What3words when you are looking for convenience rather than accuracy. Let's say if you are in an emergency situation and you need police assistance. It is much faster to let the police know your current location by saying fence.gross.bats rather than a bunch of numbers, (51.501381,-0.141830), for example.

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Lammm‭

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They don't really pitch it as a replacement for lat/long, but more postcodes and street addresses. A building number and postcode can (and has, IME) have an entrance on a different street, under a flyover, or any number of ways that make it difficult to actually find the entrance to a building. W3W can target a building entrance or location that doesn't have a street address fairly accurately.

However, I think you are right to be sceptical.

Pros

• Ease of remembering certain locations.
• Shorter values (three words to mark a 3mx3m square, which for most applications is more than adequate), as opposed to lengthy lat and long numbers. Particularly as longer words are reserved for squares that will be used less, such as over the ocean.
• Makes sharing locations over, for example, poor quality phone lines more reliable (possibly).
• Useful where street names aren’t really used or in areas where a single postcode can cover a large area.

Cons

• The algorithm is closed source and whilst the developers promise not to game the system (such as sponsorship deals to change the words used to identify a corporate HQ to something relevant to that company - e.g. Ford's HQ being identified by cool.motor.cars) a promise really isn't worth anything IMO.
• Licensing costs for car manufacturers etc to put the technology in their products.
• Doesn't work with altitude, although to be fair, neither does lat and long without adding a height vector.
• Current systems (GPS, lat/long, zip & post codes) are so ubiquitous that I can't see this system becoming universally adopted.
• It is non-hierarchical. That is; there is no connection between the words used in adjacent squares. Neither will only knowing two words of a square allow you to get a rough idea of its location such as knowing a town name, but not a street would.
• Can only be used electronically. You can't get your W3W location from a paper map, which should be an important backup option for anyone interested in the outdoors. Offline use is possible but needs to be planned for and downloaded in advance if in a poor signal area.
• No correspondence between different language versions. That is; my location in English wouldn't make sense to someone using the system in a different language.

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Darren‭

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