Apples and Oranges

Disclaimer, I'm a kayaker, I've never used a pedal powered sit on top

Paddling requires skill, technique, practice and endurance. If you have these things, along with the right paddle, then it would probably be better than an average pedal setup. On the other hand a cyclist with a top spec pedal setup would be far better off than with a cheap paddle.

If you come under neither classification then you'll end up with contradictory information about which is better.

I would anticipate that an average person with no particular skill in either field but otherwise physically active would have better endurance with a pedal setup. Larger leg muscles which generally get used more, along with less wasted energy correcting inefficient or incorrect paddle technique, would easily swing the balance.

Using both at the same time would be interesting. When kayaking the power transfer from paddle to boat passes through your feet, so they're not theoretically exclusive. But (there's always a but) pedal strokes are normally shorter than paddlestrokes, the timing would be far enough out that you'd either suffer more for the drag of the pedal system in the water than you'd gain from having it as a reasonable paddler, or wouldn't really gain from having the paddle as an effective pedaller.

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Separatrix‭

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Another difficulty (or at least downside) of a combined system is that while combining pedalling and paddling uses more muscles, they're still only supplied by one heart and pair of lungs. Either method of propulsion alone can use your aerobic ability, so the combination won't be able to sustain a higher power output.

Alternating drive methods could help against muscle fatigue, but in endurance sports (cycling and running, presumably others) even that's only part of the tiredness. Push it for days and you reach a metabolic limit to total power output. So the niche in which this combination would help is a very small one - fit but untrained individuals perhaps, while you add weight, drag, and complexity to your craft.

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Chris H‭

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Here are some articles that claim that pedal beats paddle, for speed/endurance on a SoT kayak:

• paddlecraft.com.au: What-Everybody-should-know-about-Pedal-Powered-Kayaks
• yakgear.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-paddling-and-pedaling-a-kayak
• yakangler.com/pedal-vs-paddle-kayaks-for-angling
• austinkayak.com/kayak-fishing-pedal-vs-paddle
• paddlecamp.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-kayak-a-mile
• trykayak.com/best-pedal-kayak

And some videos supporting the same claim:

• youtube.com/watch?v=VAqMIeXnvZk Harry's Yaks
• youtube.com/watch?v=jxW9Ph27EJs Canoe Shops Group
• youtube.com/watch?v=D0rvFdLdplA Hobie

I found only one video, very subjective, claiming paddle beats pedal, for speed/endurance on a SoT kayak:

• youtube.com/watch?v=coNPOFYxCqc&t=330s River Rat

There’s very little to find on combining pedal and paddle power. In two hobie.com discussions, topic2941 and topic2879, there’s some agreement that while it is possible to go faster/further by combining pedaling and paddling concurrently, there are two difficulties to overcome:

• As pedaling has a much higher cadence than paddling, how to synchronize to optimize the two?
• As pedaling brings knees up higher compared to when paddling, how to synchronize to avoid bumping paddle on knee?

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Martin F‭

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