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When should I carry both a wind jacket and hard shell?

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I warm up very quick and sweat a lot, that's why I am usually looking for the most breathable equipment. My chose is regular fleece plus a breathable wind breaker on top if there is wind. (Please refer to this article: Fleece or Soft Shell?). But for the rain I also carry a waterproof hard shell.

When would one carry both a wind jacket and waterproof hard shell?

When would one carry just one of each?

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When wind is guaranteed but rain is unlikely you might decide the extra weight is worth it. But good layering with a hard shell that is breathable and has underarm zips can be quite comfortable while saving you the weight of the soft shell. This is my preferred option as the times I get too hot are generally when it's raining. Wind blocking fleece is an alternative too.

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When cool temperatures and wind is a concern, I use a thin, very light windshirt. If it is cold enough to need fleece, the windshirt comes off and the fleece goes on. I have a new, fairly densely woven fleece from Patagonia that offers some wind protection but not is not rain resistant. If more protection is needed, a light rain jacket or heavy rain parka goes on top of the fleece. Because at that point, the weather is usually cool enough that I can adjust the zippers on the fleece and jacket to prevent overheating. The windshirt adds almost no weight to my pack. When cycling on cool days, I often through the fleece over the windshirt at long stops.

Your needs will depend on the local climate, I live where it rains often but is usually not misty. In areas with persistent mist and dense fog, a different layering system might be better.

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