Do you need to purify all mountain water sources

For certain contaminants such as Giardia, it doesn't matter whether the water is running fast or slow. You will get infected regardless. So this idea about "fast water" is a myth that is not correct.

If you are drinking close to the source of streams and there is not any mining activity or industrial pollution nearby, then OF COURSE you are drinking clean water. Assuming horses and cows aren't defecating in it further upstream from you. The appearance of things in the water that you need to worry about is usually associated with activity from animals pooping in it or humans putting things in there that they shouldn't. Particularly when talking about cold mountain streams near their source.

My wife is from a small town in the coffee-growing region of Colombia, and her family has always, and continues to, get their water by taking a bucket up to where the small springs shoot out of the sides of the mountains (the places where the springs are born). They don't boil or filter this water, they drink it straight.

posted almost 10 years ago

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Michael Martinez‭

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I have traveled the back country for 4-6 weeks a year for 30 years, mostly in the Canadian rockies and on the pre-cambrian shield. I've never used water purification, nor did we generally in our group. We've had some cases of the runs over the years, but the spread out nature made it unlikely it was a water source that did it. Far more likely bad hygiene on part of the kids.

Once on the Nechako we got started in the morning, continued to track upstream. Around the corner, not 100 yards upstream from our camp was a bloated cow on a gravel bar. Bossy was well past her Best Before date, and was likely winter kill left on the gravel by falling spring runoff.

Despite having had diluted cow for the previous evening and breakfast, no one got sick.

There are parts of the world where you have to be concerned about water. Not here.

A large part of the risk comes from substantial exposure. E.g. If you get 6 bacteria, your immune system stomps all over them. If you get a dose of 6 million bacteria (About half a serving of active culture yogurt) AND if they are a variety that is toxic, you are in trouble.

posted about 10 years ago

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Sherwood Botsford‭

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The bottom line is there is always SOME risk. Whether to take that risk or not is your choice.

Fast running + isolated + high elevation = prettttty low risk.

With that said the biggest concern is, unless you are drinking right from the source, you have no idea what has happened upstream from you. There could be a dead animal snagged in the stream, animal and human feces etc...

I have drank from mountain streams and not gotten sick, but I have seen others partake and get real sick...The choice is yours.

posted almost 11 years ago

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AM_Hawk‭

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No you don't.

We live in a small Swiss village of 380 inhabitants

All the water we use comes from above the village as spring water

This is piped to our house and to a village water trough (for animals and humans )

Tourists often ask to drink from our house because the idea of drinking from an outside water source is euuk (yes many are American)

However a) it's the same water (origin)

BUT

b) it runs continually from a clean spigot into the trough so it is cooler, it is fresher (it has not been standing in a metal or plastic pipe so fewer contaminants), it is more highly oxygenated. it is free - we pay for our metered use.

posted about 10 years ago

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James Ferguson‭

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The one shortcoming I find reading through many of the other answers is that they seem to skip over a major source of pollutants in backcountry streams: human waste. While you might not be downstream of a cattle feedlot, there's a chance that a human (or other animal) took a dump just upstream from you. Doubly so if you've been hiking along an established trail.

For example, here's a USGS study. While not particularly far into the backcountry, both of these creeks would objectively appear to be pristine, swift moving mountain streams. Pay particular attention to the bit about "fecal coliforms" and keep in mind that there are more people in the backcountry than there were 20 years ago...

Abstract: This study was conducted in Grand Teton National Park during the summers of 1996 and 1997 to investigate the water quality in two high human use areas: Garnet Canyon and lower Cascade Canyon. To evaluate the water quality in these creeks, fecal coliform, Giardia lamblia, coccidia, and microparticulates were measured in water samples. No evidence of fecal coliform, Giardia lamblia, or coccidia, was found in Garnet Creek. The water quality and general water chemistry of Garnet Creek was similar to the reference site. No Giardia lamblia or coccidia were found in Cascade Creek, but fecal coliforms were present. The isolated colonies of Escherichia coli from Cascade Creek matched the ribosome patterns of avian, deer, canine, elk, rodent, and human coliforms.

Personally, I'll deal with purifying my water (and bringing hand sanitizer!) in order to not deal with diarrhea while backpacking.

posted over 7 years ago

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erfink‭

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I think your assumptions are correct. To my knowledge in a mountain environment you are quite safe as long as you follow some simple rules, which you mostly already named:

1. The water was not standing, i.e.

   • it comes from a stream that is rather fast and
   • the stream is big enough that it is not just a connection of puddles or ponds where the water rinses from one to the other.

2. There are no sources of contamination upstream. As you mention, thinkable sources are

   • agricultural areas where fertilizers or herbicides could have been used
   • meadows, where cattle was present
   • mining
   • (quite unlikely) the water runs through some geologic formation where harmful stuff gets washed out.

As long as you have checked such stuff, you should be quite safe with flowing water in mountain areas. Even the streams of melting water that build up on the surface of glaciers on summer afternoons will be rather fine then.

posted almost 11 years ago

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Benedikt Bauer‭

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